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Student loans the crushing debt
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The cost of a college
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education is rapidly rising, far more than the cost of inflation
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more than even the cost of healthcare, but I don't hear a peep about it in the media
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The policy of student loans is a total
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failure, I mean a trillion dollars of debt?
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The colleges need to justify what it is they're doing with our tuition dollars and our taxpayer dollars
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It is becoming more and more and more expensive to go to college.
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You are seeing the potential of an economically lost generation.
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And the average debt for a college senior right now is over twenty five thousand dollars.
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It's time for congress to stand for the rights of student loan borrowers.
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Because in the United States of America, no one should go broke because
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they chose to go to college.
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I was sitting and waiting for my AP psych test and I was freaking out
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everybody's super nervous
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My phone rings and I'm like, "Oh it's my dad, he's totally going
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to make me feel better."
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He's says, "Where do you want your stuff
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it's in the back of my truck" and I said "What do you mean?"
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And he said, "Well Josie" (my stepmom) "told me to pick
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you or her so where do you want your stuff?"
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And I was like "Oh. OK, I feel like crap now."
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So I was thinking, "What am I going to do?"
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It was always like you're going to college no matter what, even if
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you have to scrape gum off the ground
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you're going to college.
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So what I decided I'm going to go to a 4-year
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university, I want to go a big school.
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It wasn't until later I realized, "Oh my gosh
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I'm paying for this."
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I have a two thousand dollar loan, a four thousand dollar loan
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a three thousand dollar loan and then the eighteen thousand dollar loan.
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And then I have a school direct plus
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that's like two thousand dollars.
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Federal loans I think since the late seventies
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you haven't ever been able to declare bankruptcy.
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That's across the board on federal loans.
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But until 2005 you could declare bankruptcy on private loans.
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The moment that they put the bankruptcy protection in,
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schools had no incentive to keep tuition low
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they started to go sky-rocketing out of control because they were
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backed by the federal government and they would always get their money, no matter what.
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It's different than any other debt that we have, you can discharge your credit card debt
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your home loans, your medical debt; you cannot get rid of
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your student debt. It sticks with you forever.
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I would like to see tuition freezes until we can figure out where
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--you know really open up the budgets-- and see where money is going.
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If you paid more teachers to have smaller classes, people would
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learn so much more and the teachers would care more.
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So they have plenty of money but it's just not
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to subsidize the cost of education for students.
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I don't think the students want it
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Every school wants to compete with each other to be the most
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prestigious, the most beautiful school, when in fact students
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just want a simple education for as cheap as possible.
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If you've got three classes and it's four hundred students
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each I'm sure you're not like, "Oh let me go through everbody's test."
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But if you just put something into it, you know, put in
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what we put in. We really care about our grades so for you
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to just push us to the side well then why am I even here?
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Does the money that students put in to their
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tuition, do they actually get it back?
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If you look at tuition between 1979
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and 2010, it's increased 175
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percent in private colleges and
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220 percent in public universities and colleges.
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The only problem is the ratio of professors to
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students has stayed the same at 7 per 100
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However the number of administrators has increased
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from 3 to a hundred to 6 to a hundred.
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So it appears that a lot of this extra money that students pay for
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tuition is not going into the classroom to
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improve their education but is going for administrators.
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Several years ago I was holding up hearing approval
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to build a fitness center at
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Northern Arizona University, because they were going to charge the
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students three or four hundred dollars a year
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to pay for the fitness center. A gym.
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Like a spa on campus.
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And I said, "You know what? You want to build your fitness center then
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charge a fee for those who
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want to use it and have that pay for the fitness center.
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Don't make every student on the campus pay this."
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And the administrators tell me, "Well we have to be competitive. We don't have a
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fitness center we can't get all these extra students." I said, "Why do you want all these extra
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students? So you can build more buildings and come here looking for more money
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and increase tuition more to pay for them?"
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It's all money all the time. I feel like-- it sounds weird--
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but if you want to get an education money shouldn't be a part of it.
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We would probably have a better campus
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not because it's beautiful but because we've got smart people.
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You shouldn't worry about how it looks, you should
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worry about if it's actually doing what it's supposed to.
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We're trying to grow both the west and polytechnic
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campus because there's the opportunity for growth
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on those two campuses with the expansion
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of residence halls and the new residence halls and the new rec center.
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You see my financial aid you look at it with your own eyes. You see how much I'm coming
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from, how much I make, how much I don't make and
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how much is in my bank account. You literally have the paper in front of you
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and you ask a kid who doesn't have a job
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who has a thousand dollars in her bank account that's in her savings
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and like two dollars in my checking account and they say, "OK
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so we want you to pay thirty-six thousand a year."
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My loans will continue to grow faster
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than any salary or wage ever can.
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It has cost me my family, it has cost me my
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friends, it has cost me two potential marriages,
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and of course I've shied away from having children because I simply can't afford it.
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I currently make eight dollars and fifty cents
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an hour as a cashier at Ace Hardware.
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I'll be forty-five thousand dollars in debt by the
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time I graduate.
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I am freshly enraged about the
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state of our education system in the United States.
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I just called the U.S. Department of Education regarding
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my bill that I pay on every month and I have been for the last decade.
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After I graduate, I think I will have about forty-thousand dollars in debt.
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Facing turning sixty-two and knowing
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I have another thirty years to pay on my student
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loans is daunting.
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My goal you could say right now is to hopefully graduate with two degrees
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in psychology and global health, get an
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MBA with emphasis in hospital management.
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I'm an administrative intern for Maricopa Integrated Health System.
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I learn things like payroll
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scheduling, scheduling protocol, working with
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patients, meeting doctors-- things like that.
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I kind of get a feel for exactly I want to do. "Thank you so much."
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Selling tickets over here
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I work for the athletic department at Arizona State University "If you want to buy a ticket I can sell
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you a ticket over here"
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I manage five houses and I also make sure that
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groceries and all day to day plans are met.
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When I was actually left alone, it was a big shock.
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My first semester I kind of cried
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a lot.
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Not just because they were gone but because
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there was so much pressure on me.
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Every morning I had to wash my own clothes
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make my own food, do pretty much everything
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by myself. Alone.
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I think of myself as a Dad.
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They are my children, because every single week
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I am responsible for every single thing that happens inside this house
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and outside this house.
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I have to make sure that my sister gets her books that she needs for her assignments.
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So that they are done every single week.
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I want to be an important person someday. I want to make some kind
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of a change. My parents always wanted me to be a doctor
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they always wanted me to have a big degree. They always wanted me to be
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the best person I can possibly be.
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When I think about it in my situation
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right now, it's really hard to focus on always school, school, school.
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Even though it's a really important thing. I'm working, I'm studying
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I need to get good grades. You need to have a good G.P.A. when you get out of undergrad
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because it's important in your job field.
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Graduation rates are highest
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at the highest income levels.
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So regardless of your aptitude, if your
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family is making a hundred and fifty thousand dollars and above
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in family income, your chances of graduating at the undergraduate level--
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seventy-five percent. If you're under thirty thousand dollars
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it's twenty-five.
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Just to be honest, I would not be able to do anything if it wasn't for the scholarship.
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It's my lifeline right now. It means everything to me.
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If someone hears my story, one of my teachers hears my story and she says
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"Why are you in class? You should be out working or something."
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Study and get A's. You want to get a great job? Leave college
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with a G.P.A. that's high. I don't know what the answer is I don't want to deny anybody the right
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to go to college, but I think everybody should understand
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what they're getting into and what they're going to leave with.
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It's not the dream that college was in the
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1960's when I went to college when it was a true
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ticket to prosperity. Things have changed.
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My loans me have caused me to have to fight every single day to be able
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to pay my bills. If I didn't have that student loan, I would be able to go out
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in search for a new job. I think we need to listen to the millions because
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we need to be heard.
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I don't think it's fair that education is placed on the
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lower end of the spectrum when it comes to being recognized
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as something that everyone needs.
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They haven't been able to help me in any way.
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I looked into their hardship plans and their
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disability deferment plans and
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for one reason or another I was always
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ineligible and that begs the question: If someone with
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brain cancer is ineligible for the hardship program then
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who the hell is eligible for the hardship program?
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I'll definitely be over a hundred thousand dollars in debt by the time
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I graduate so I'll be paying that off for the rest of my life.
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When I was a junior, my mom got diagnosed with cancer.
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Junior year I'd be going to school and I would drive to
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Mayo Clinic after school to spend
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time with my mom, that's just what my daily routine was.
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So then my senior year came...
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OK.
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So you know those nightmares you used to have of, well I always
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had them, of both my parents dying? That was the
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biggest nightmare that I'd ever have and that my mom would die too that was
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the scariest thing for me to go through.
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Before I graduated-- it was April 29th--
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I had my whole family out there and
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she had gone through a couple surgeries, emergency surgeries, because she
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had internal bleeding from one of her biopsies.
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So my whole family flew out there and
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everybody got to say their goodbyes and
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my sister and I were there in the room when she took her last breath.
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I wanted her to go knowing that I could
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achieve what I wanted and that
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I was going to be OK.
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That's just what I kept repeating to her, "I'm going to be fine.
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You need to be OK."
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I had to pack up in a few days and put it in storage, everything.
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And that's when I was living in the dorms
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that was the hardest time because I didn't have anywhere to go.
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I didn't have any place to call home.
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I didn't have parents. It was all bad.
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And that was the first time I was like, "You know I need to get a job
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I need to be able to support myself. I'm never ever
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going to put my family through what I was put through when it comes to finances.
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I'm making my life now. This is my life and I just need to do it.
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I didn't question
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can I not make it through school? Can I not finish? Do I have to
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go work? It was just second nature, I needed to just do it.
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And I need to come out of it on top and be an inspiration to those
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that have no idea.
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In reality I work thirty two plus hours a week
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at one location, one store, you know, one job.
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I started as a sales associate, then a keyholder
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then a floor supervisor, now I'm assistant manager.
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So I've worked my way up but that's pretty much the top
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that I can get. So balancing the thirty hours of work
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that I do, over thirty hours, and then
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my fifteen hours of credit-hours that I'm in school,
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I am always just staying up
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late at night at two o'clock in the morning, pulling all nighters.
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I am an intern for marketing for ASU
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athletics so I do the football and basketball games, which is so fun.
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I do on-site promotions making sure that all of our corporate sponsors who have
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booths set up or onsites set up that everything is going OK.
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I'm willing to look at it as, I'm willing to sacrifice this time in my life
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to school, to work, for happiness in a couple years.
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Everyday I think about money. When I wake up it's
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about money. It's just stressful, I get paid on Friday and I'm living
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on forty dollars for the next couple of days, which is, substantial.
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I'm going to make it through, but I don't want to feel like that anymore.
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I want to be able to know that I'm going to have a career that's going
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to give me something other than living paycheck to paycheck.
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It's just one after another of something I have to pay and it's hard.
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You may have to work, you may have to take out loans, you may have
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to accelerate your program of study.
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The federal government only allows x number of dollars to go to students in
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federal assistance or grant assistance. Those are the rules.
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It's increasingly seeming that students who went to school are actually in more trouble than students
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that didn't because they don't have that hundred thousand debt on their back when they graduate.
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My education is just something that I have to do. It's something that
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needs to happen. I don't think that I've ever hesitated and been like
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me dropping out of school-- well I'm going to have to start paying my loans back, so why not just stay in school?
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Pell grants. Student loans. What these have done is they've allowed college administrators
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to jack up the tuition. It's a very simple process. If these loans weren't being subsidized
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at dirt cheap prices, and if students weren't getting all these grants, then
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the administrators wouldn't be able to charge ridiculous rates for tuition they'd have to be competitive
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and charge lower rates.
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The bottom line is, throughout the United States, there has been an
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erosion of state support
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for higher education at public colleges and
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universities and that oweness that responsibility has shifted
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to students. Three years ago
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when we look at that the state's budget cuts about two-hundred and
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sixty-five million of those budget cuts came in higher education.
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I feel like it's almost like a company it's almost like a business.
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You're education has turned into business rather than being--
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you know, you should be looked up to because you're
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going to school and you're doing the right thing. And I almost feel like I'm getting
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punished with these bills and with these late fees and
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everything that comes. Half of the stuff that adds up to your tuition
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I have no idea where it goes, you know what it adds up to
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technology fee, what does that even mean?
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Schools have become degree factories and not academia places of higher education
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where great minds come together to talk.
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It shouldn't be like a company, it shouldn't be like I'm a machine, it shouldn't be like I'm just everybody
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else, it should be more personal it should be more hands-on.
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Why are you not helping me? Why aren't you helping the other around me?
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When it comes down to it, I can do it, but those people that really can't, there's people in worse situations than
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I'm in and they're in school. But why won't
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you even talk to us? Why won't you even have the dignity
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to sit with me one on one and tell me the truth
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and tell me the answers and tell me why this why that.
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If it's out of their control then so be it and there's nothing that we can
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be angry for, but we don't know that because
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we haven't heard anything.
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It's not the same system it was ten, twenty years
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ago that a lot of people remember. We're coming out now in so
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much debt that it's difficult to fathom.
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I can hardly afford to live on my annual salary and pay back my student loan debt.
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Education may have set my mind free, but my student loan debts
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have shackled me for life.
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I earned this and right now, all it is, is a piece
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of paper. It's not getting me any jobs or anything.
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They need to realize that this is crushing the
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"American dream" for people and it's going to hurt.
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We have no idea what the effect of so many student debtors will be ten years from now
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on the American economy and that's what I'm afraid of.
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So when you go out there with your degree, because everybody else has a degree, you get less money or
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instead of being a barrister with your law degree, you are a barista at Starbucks.
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That's the way it goes. And that's the reality of the situation.
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As a country, what do we value in education
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and how does that help us be a better society?
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Be a better society for this state, this country and
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actually the world.
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They could take away everything, my room, my hair, shave my head
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I don't care, but you can't take away my education.
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Education is the one thing they can never take away. They can cut off your leg, your arm but
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they can't take away your education.
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If we want to be successful, I think that we need to have educated
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young men and women to run this country.
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